Ep. 44: How Julie Kratz Impacted the Work Performance of Over 10,000 People Through Her Allyship Programs, And Almost Lost it All.

Ep. 44: How Julie Kratz Impacted the Work Performance of Over 10,000 People Through Her Allyship Programs, And Almost Lost it All.

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Organizations that treat inclusion as a day of slogans will be outpaced by those that build it into how leaders actually behave. Julie Kratz professor at Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business and CEO of Next Pivot Point, turned a decade of consulting into repeatable allyship programs that have trained hundreds of leaders at the likes of Amazon, TripAdvisor, Hitachi, and Fast Company.

Julie walks listeners through a practical, cohort-based approach: pre- and post-assessments on knowledge, ability to practice, and confidence, weekly skill deep dives, then back-to-work application and coached reflection. The model scaled from one leadership team to five cohorts and 200 leaders, producing measured lifts (roughly 20–30%) in people’s ability to use inclusive skills, and it’s paired with Julie’s books, podcasts, a 19-minute program infomercial, and downloadable workbooks at NextPivotPoint.com.

Key Takeaways:

  • Implement a cohort learning loop: design a learning cycle that teaches one skill, sends leaders back to practice, and uses reflection sessions for peer coaching and troubleshooting.
  • Build assessment-driven programs: create pre/post tools that measure knowledge, confidence, and frequency of practice to demonstrate learning impact.
  • Institutionalize allyship: convert individual skills into concrete policies and processes across hiring, promotions, and pay equity so practices endure.
  • Influence decision-makers: craft “what’s in it for me” messaging and ROI conversations that engage executives and secure budgets for inclusive initiatives.
  • Future-proof talent strategy: apply cultural-intelligence practices and proactive pipeline techniques to attract Gen Z and a more diverse, neurodivergent workforce.

Join us with Julie Kratz as she teaches leaders how to convert allyship from a nice-to-have into measurable practices that strengthen teams, protect talent pipelines, and drive real organizational change.

  • Course Objectives
  • Episode Info
  • Resources
  • Credits
  • Bios
    • Define Allyship in Business : Understand allyship as actionable inclusion that drives organizational performance.
    • Build Scalable Systems : Learn how EOS principles enable structure, accountability, and growth.
    • Diversify Revenue Streams : Recognize how multiple income channels strengthen resilience.
    • Operationalize Inclusion : Apply inclusive leadership and feedback systems to build engaged teams.
    • Strengthen Crisis Adaptability : Discover strategies to pivot effectively during business disruptions.
  • Special Guest: Julie Kratz – Founder & Chief Engagement Officer

    Location: greater Indianapolis

    Air Date: October 05 ,2025

  • Websites:

    • Next Pivot Point: Next Pivot Point teaches actionable approaches to leadership that go beyond statements and performative tactics.

    Article:

    Book :

    • We Want You: An Allyship Guide for People with Power.
    • ONE: How Male Allies Support Women for Gender Equality
    • Pivot Point: How to Build a Winning Career Game Plan for Mid-Career Women

    Podcast:

    Video:

  • Producer & Host: Alicia Butler Pierre
    Producer & Voiceover Artist: Clarence Levy III
    Audio Editors: Olanrewaju Adeyemo and Sabor! Music Enterprises
    Sound Design: Sabor! Music Enterprises
    Video Editor: Gladys Jimenez
    Show Notes: Hashim Tale
    Sponsor: Equilibria, Inc.

  • More About Guest, Julie Kratz.

    Julie Kratz is a nationally recognized inclusive leadership strategist, professor at Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business, and CEO of Next Pivot Point, where she has spent the past decade advancing diversity, equity, and inclusion through the power of allyship.

    Drawing on 12 years as a corporate people leader across industries like agriculture, financial services, and construction, often as the only woman in the room Julie turned her lived experiences into a mission: helping leaders build cultures where everyone feels seen, heard, and valued. Her allyship programs have directly impacted over 10,000 professionals worldwide and engaged executives at organizations including Amazon, TripAdvisor, Hitachi, and Fast Company.

    Julie is the creator of a cohort-based allyship framework that blends pre- and post-assessments with real-time application, enabling leaders to strengthen skills in cultural intelligence, inclusive language, and bias detection. At Amazon alone, more than 200 leaders have reported a measurable 20–30% lift in their ability to practice inclusion after completing her program.

    A TEDx speaker, Forbes columnist, and host of the long-running podcast Allyship in Action, Julie has amplified her thought leadership to audiences of tens of thousands across industries and continents. She is also the author of multiple books, including We Want You: An Allyship Guide for People with Power and One: How Male Allies Support Women for Gender Equality, published at the rise of the #MeToo movement.

    Today, Julie teaches decision-making and inclusive leadership at the Kelley School of Business, where she inspires the next generation of leaders to embrace curiosity, practice empathy, and embed inclusion into core business strategy. With over 40,000 engaged LinkedIn followers and a global platform of resources at NextPivotPoint.com, she continues to guide executives, educators, and organizations on the long game of building workplaces that reflect the realities of a diverse and evolving workforce.

    Julie’s legacy is one of bridge building connecting people across differences, equipping leaders with actionable tools, and ensuring that inclusion is not just a statement, but a sustainable business practice.

     

    More About Host, Alicia Butler Pierre:
    Alicia Butler Pierre is the Founder & CEO of Equilibria, Inc. Her career in operations began over 25 years ago while working in various chemical plants and oil refineries. She invented the Kasennu™ framework for business infrastructure and authored, Behind the Façade: How to Structure Company Operations for Sustainable Success.  She is the producer of Scale Tales podcast and the weekly top 2% Business Infrastructure podcast with a global audience across 70+ countries.

     

    More About Sponsor, Equilibria:
    Equilibria, Inc. is a 20-year-old boutique operations management firm. We build the business infrastructure necessary for fast-growing businesses to scale with less pain. With a range of services and products, entrepreneurs can get the operational support and resources they need on demand.